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Tremendous News!: 5 Ways Twitter Lists Can Defeat Douchebags.

  • jennybloggess · 1 month ago
    The fact that I'm on 1000 lists is way more surprising than the fact that you're doing me. I *am* throwing up a lot. Send child support in advance, please. I'm in desperate need of amaretto.
  • Warren Whitlock · 1 month ago
    list is the new follow
  • Blake @ Props Blog · 1 month ago
    That is what is has come to. Until people start trading "lists" we're okay, but there's going to be a point where jackasses start doing that too.

    If a list has more than 150 people, it is bogus (unless it's a list of douchebags on Twitter).

    Even if the dbags figure out a way to start trading lists, we'll be able to see if the lists are bogus or not.
  • Warren Whitlock · 1 month ago
    This goes way beyond the dbags.

    There are many small business people trying out Twitter. In every class I teach, they as "how do you get followers?" and are disappointed that they can't buy them. They just haven't yet understood that this ia not another ad medium.

    The same will happen with lists, or anything that comes up.. someone will see Scoble talk about lists and decide they want to be on a list. They will read this post and see that being on a list is cool (they won't use "list/follwer" ratio) and they will spend hours asking friends to list them.

    2 years ago, I heard people say "This is ruining Twitter".. heard the same about other technology too. (BBS operators talking more about what "should" be than adding any value).

    Through it all, we have conversations with real people.. and life goes on.
  • Tim Wood · 1 month ago
    Warren, have you explored in your class the concept of writing something informative or funny that a reader in the target market can use or profitably think about? The new "elevator pitch" is 140 chars long and reads well on an SMS display, complete with link.
  • Warren Whitlock · 1 month ago
    Tim

    You are right. Good content is good content.. even in just 140 characters.

    I've written many thousands of tweets, status messages and short copy for email, business cards, etc. What works best is human to human engagement.

    Sometimes, just a simple "Hello" or "Thank You" will make that person's day. And who would you rather buy from?

    This is business. I tweet as part of my brand, but it's also human. After all, business is conducted between human beings, regardless of the technology.
  • plainJon · 1 month ago
    What if your'e a nice guy but not good looking and not funny or articulate. Your'e on no lists but your'e still not a douchebag?
  • Ezra Butler · 1 month ago
    Oh, this is quite awkward.

    You see, @thebloggess is on my 'bloggersiwanttosleepwith' list. That makes you the competition.

    I am on a bunch of "Jew" lists as well, so you know that I've got the brotherhood of the.. accountants and tax attorneys who have my back.
  • Sour Cherry · 1 month ago
    Some folks have already found mean ways to use the lists. I saw one the other day that was titled "douchebags" and while such a title may be warranted--why follow said db and list him? Whats the point? There's also the case of the [insert platform here] extremists who used to search the hashtags & trending topics all day just to troll those who had different views, now they have the capability to create lists and pass them around. I'm really not sure the lists are such a great idea and I can see a lot of otherwise open folks needing to protect their tweets at some point in the future.
  • theComplex · 1 month ago
    Fantastic! I had my own rant on Geeksugar when their poll on Twitter Lists showed that most people were not in favor of the new feature. "Now Twitter's more of a popularity contest!" OH WELL!

    While I do not pride myself on my # of followers (or try not to) I was pretty estastic to see myself on lists as soon as the feature rolled out. The lists show a lot about me and pretty accurately. From the lists I'm on people can see that:

    1. I'm some sort of designer or creative person
    2. I might be a little charming (to someone!)
    3. I know someone that speaks Tagalog and considers me a friend
    4. I Retweet often (if relevant)
    5. I like Hip-hop (or music in general) and express that freely

    I can now use lists when I am deciding whether or not to follow a fellow tweeter in addition to "Do they have a relevant bio? Do they have a url? Are they following way more people than are following them?"
  • leewoodford · 1 month ago
    I have so far avoided a most wanted list.... in any context!!!
  • Tim Wood · 1 month ago
    So I'm on 19 lists over 159 followers... 11.9%!? Ax a couple of bots and call it 12. I'm cool and I didn't know it! Hey, what's the impressive-sounding name for that metric? BTW, does it matter that most of the lists have "shit" in their names? Kthxbai
  • Steven C. · 1 month ago
    9 listed with 62 followers! that's around 14.5% listed rate! Suck it! That's gotta be like, 3 popped collar cool right? (I'll get the fourth collar with more followers and lists, and I'll pop my Five Star General collar when I'm linked on iReport!)
  • JoshuaStrebel · 1 month ago
    Or how about... just saying what it is.
    http://twitter.com/strebel/douchebagfuckers
  • serenebabe · 1 month ago
    Sorry, man, but I almost unfollowed you today (no joke) when I realized you have over 15k followers. I'm not a fan of the mega-stars. But, I still like you. And I know you don't care about ONE follower dropping you, but I will say you bashing on mega-stars and/or the gamers pretending to have followers using whatever technological wizardry they've used is starting to ring a little hollow. Said with a smiley emoticon all throughout.
  • serenebabe · 1 month ago
    Also, drop the term "douchbags." It plays into the idea that women's genitals need to be washed and whatever comes out in that washing is disgusting. Not to get too serious on your TN ass, but, there y'go.
  • Dennis Jernberg · 1 month ago
    I have a little over 1,500 followers, and I'm already on 115 lists. But well over half of them have something to do with NaNoWriMo. My NaNo list isn't the biggest, but it's the most followed. It has over 300 people, but all of them are trying to write over 50,000 words this month, so no douchebags there. Most of them, in fact, are "blue collar tweeters" with even fewer followers than your intern Peanut. I seem to be the "big man on Twitter" among the whole "wrimo" group, or at least the one who isn't Chris Baty...

    The real douchebags? I just don't follow them, much less list them. I don't like having annoying people pollute my Twitter stream, you see.

    Anyway, once the gamers start gaming the lists, the rating sites should change their algorithms so that they take into consideration the quality of the tweeps in their lists, both the ones they follow and the ones that follow them. Their 1,000 lists artificially packed with spambots should count for less than the 115 that follow me, both the NaNoWriMo ones and those belonging to such tweeps as @kim and @BuzzEdition.

    Anyway, it's early in the Twitter lists saga, so things are bound to change greatly by this time next year. For one thing, I suggested to @twitter that they add groups, which would be like lists mutually owned by their members. And others have their own suggestions...

    Oh well, I blather and procrastinate writing my latest NaNoWriMo novel... *sigh*
  • cexdance · 1 month ago
    best blog log I have read in a loong time! Thanks for colaborating! lets get naked douchbags!
  • Steve Simmons · 1 month ago
    I was going to say something about lists and DBags, but then I too was distracted by the bum tomato.
  • Phil Hackett · 1 month ago
    Why am I not on one of your lists, am I a Gamer??
  • Mike Dammann · 1 month ago
    i got paranoid for a minute, but then i saw I'm on 116 lists. Not great, not shameful. And growing
  • 9swords · 1 month ago
    Bum tomato ! A douchebag would never eat a tomato like that ! Good one ! Yes i am yelling without caps lock on !
  • norean · 1 month ago
    luv the bum tomato!
  • Diana Freedman · 1 month ago
    So far, while I think lists are really cool and I love grouping people together, I don't use them as a basis for following people. I actually stay away from following people following or being followed by an absurd number of people, even if they are on tons of lists, because they usually tweet too much or will never, ever reply to you.